Curse

lewis91 · Jan 26, 2009, 09:38 PM // 21:38

Don't get me wrong, i like being in a group with people, but generally people i like, say from a guild, and when they're busy i don't like resorting to a PUG group, that will most likely fail...
So i turn to heroes, and i know theyre great, if you know how to work them, but reading that they're designed to replace the people in PUGs by being some sort of Elite Henchman, you can't help but think they arn't ever a full replacement.
But if you turn to them quite alot, you would like them to have the armor of a person, and by that i mean Runes etc... And this can be quite expensive for each hero that you use. So what im thinking is considering Heroes absorb a percentage of your drops, well that should create a bank, and you can use your individual heroes bank to upgrade him/her with runes and weapons.
Editing them could be like the PVP editing of your character...Go to inventory, click the specific hero you wish to fit out, and then press the editing slot, and with that, each rune you want for your hero, can be purchased using your heroes bank. Obviously once created, if salvaged, the rune would be restricted to that hero on that character only, to stop say using koss' bank to fit up dunkoro, who of which may not have enough in his bank.

So basically your hero would be more like you, the more you go out, kill stuff, collect crap, the more your money pools, the more ability you have to get more runes, which result in you having more health, power, defence etc...Thus creating something that is a truly elite henchman with no money grind to you.

Thoughts?

Lord Of Blame · Jan 26, 2009, 10:36 PM // 22:36

It would be nice but will never happen.

I only pimp out the heroes I actually use, so it's not really all that expensive. I don't bother upgrading anyone else.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jan 26, 2009, 10:40 PM // 22:40

This actually makes sense. It'd be worthwhile for new players who don't have a decent chunk of cash stored to upgrade the heroes. You don't need to upgrade them, but I think it's a good idea.

kostolomac · Jan 26, 2009, 10:48 PM // 22:48

/notsigned
You only use a couple heroes , it's easy to gear them out. It's not set in stone that you must give them all perfect weapons , sup vigor runes and insignias.

KoKoS · Jan 26, 2009, 11:12 PM // 23:12

/signed --> good idea
/notsigned --> will never happen =]

KoKoS

haasdt · Jan 26, 2009, 11:15 PM // 23:15

I agree with above. My heroes have a lot of +19% chance mods and +29 health fortitude mods on their gear.

legacyofkain85 · Jan 26, 2009, 11:18 PM // 23:18

why not just make them like the pvp heroes,click button and add runes,insignias,weapons
/signed for the idea,but like it's been said probably never going to be added

lewis91 · Jan 26, 2009, 11:24 PM // 23:24

Yeah i know it would never happen, but i use my heroes alot. And seems i dont do DoA or Slaveres repeatedly i dont exactly have enough money to pimp my heroes. not needed +50 runes ofc, but even +41 on 3 heroes can kill my collection. And i dont like the idea of fully turning them into pvp chars mainly because it would make it TOO easy to pimp em, i think earning money as you use them towards runes is a good idea. so im singing my own idea

/sign lol.

Spike Stritter · Jan 27, 2009, 12:01 AM // 00:01

i liek the whole idea of 6 ppl 2 heroes rather than 2 ppl and 6 heroes..this will only make groups with 6 heroes go up

/notsigned

Medoc · Jan 27, 2009, 01:14 AM // 01:14

I think it's a good idea since the heroes do end up sucking up a lot of your drops. Why lay any armor upgrades on the sole human when the AI is taking in an equal percentage of the gold drops? The fact that some may only use a few heroes is fine for them, but others, like me, likes to experiment with different heroes in different areas, or just for the hell of it. Granted, I never use certain ones *cough* sins *cough*, but it can get expensive if you like to use a number of the others. Too bad it'll never happen but /signed

subarucar · Jan 27, 2009, 01:34 AM // 01:34

Its a good idea, but they seem to function fine without additional runes/insignias etc. Anyway, iv noticed apart from certain dungeons or missions, people barely use anything much beyond sabway, and occaisonaly Smiteway, anyway. And it doesnt cost a huge amount to kit out 3 heroes.

draxynnic · Jan 27, 2009, 01:39 AM // 01:39

Decent idea. As a rule, I tend to view equipping heroes as an extra form of storage as opposed to pimping them to maximum power, but this system would go some way to explaining where all that gold is going.

Seperating runes bought for the heroes from those donated by the player might prove to be a nontrivial task, however...

Improvavel · Jan 27, 2009, 01:45 AM // 01:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Stritter

i liek the whole idea of 6 ppl 2 heroes rather than 2 ppl and 6 heroes..this will only make groups with 6 heroes go up

/notsigned

People that take the heroes over other people, won't take them regardless. If heroes were taken out at this point, GWs would just die.

I would rather, as was suggested before that the heroes will be shared between the account, not the lvls or the xp, but the equipment. Making them as PvP would be fine too

Each character have 26 heroes. Even 6 heroes per character ends in 60 heroes if you all the professions. All the 10 characters with all the heroes are a whooping 260 heroes.

The cost of major vigors in 60 heroes is 240k.

Anyway if by a miracle they are changed warn people before. I want to salvage those dozens of majors and all the other runes, although by then, they would be worthless :P

lewis91 · Jan 27, 2009, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Quote:

Anyway if by a miracle they are changed warn people before. I want to salvage those dozens of majors and all the other runes, although by then, they would be worthless :P

Yeah, but i was thinking as more of an idea for GW2, considering they've got an extra year to play around with things ¬_¬ *Waits impatiently for GW2*

Spike Stritter · Jan 27, 2009, 04:06 AM // 04:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Improvavel

People that take the heroes over other people, won't take them regardless. If heroes were taken out at this point, GWs would just die.

True. i dont want heroes removed. and im not talking about the ppl u mentioned. im talking about the ppl who will take ppl over heroes due to their heroes sucking because of w/e issues (money,campaign, etc). when they can suddenly make their heroes as good as they want them to (sup. vigs. perf weapons, etc) the ppl who will choose heroes over ppl will increase.

and no. im not basing my point on my money/hero status as my heroes do have maj vigs, perf. weapons, elite armors (200k+ of fun). im basing it on my satisfaction of playing with other people.

/still not signed

Zahr Dalsk · Jan 27, 2009, 01:16 PM // 13:16

ArenaNet hates players, so it won't happen.

Notice how heroes are limited to 3 per person.

HawkofStorms · Jan 27, 2009, 05:40 PM // 17:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

ArenaNet hates players, so it won't happen.

Notice how heroes are limited to 3 per person.

Yes, because the company hates the very people that give them a living.
/sarcasm off

Anyway, kinda an interesting idea, but unless you are using Heroes in PvP (bad) or Hero Battles (use a PvP character) there is no real "need" to have maxed out stats in PvE. I once remember a guildmate asking if my heroes were as speced out as theirs were. After pinging Livia's health, my response was "that's more health then I have!"

Hailey Anne · Jan 27, 2009, 05:51 PM // 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by kostolomac

/notsigned
You only use a couple heroes , it's easy to gear them out. It's not set in stone that you must give them all perfect weapons , sup vigor runes and insignias.

I like alot of people use more than just a couple. I use almost all of my heroes depending on what im doing. And no one said you have to give them sup runes of vig. just minor costs over 2k * 10 heroes I use atleast, 20k across 9 chars 180k just for minor runes. (not that its alot of money but to new players it is.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Stritter

i liek the whole idea of 6 ppl 2 heroes rather than 2 ppl and 6 heroes..this will only make groups with 6 heroes go up

/notsigned

hate to break it to you but alot of people take 3 heroes and hench rahter than people anyways since alot of players are really bad. For the most prt the only people that use 6/2 are friends/guilds.
Allowing people to upgrade heroes a little easier is NOT going to make people use them more its just going to allow the people who do use them to upgrade them without going broke.

/signed

JASON626 · Jan 27, 2009, 06:47 PM // 18:47

I'd like heroes to use the pvp system myself. click and changed things on the fly. If its unlocked then it should be avialable. The dual purpose necros, be nice to swap out weapon sets and such to go with your build choices for that moment. Not many people want to put superior vigor rubnes on heroes :\

R.Shayne · Jan 27, 2009, 06:53 PM // 18:53

200+ Heroes across ten character. All with max weapons and all runes / insignia applied to armor. All equipment matches builds.

I have no use for titles so all the gold I have goes to equipment.